Could information be a state of matter?
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I was thinking one of these days that with all the later efforts in informatics on acquiring, analyzing, processing and transforming data, “information” has started to become, in a way, a state of matter. It’s kind of hard to name it actually matter – as it’s far from that – you can not feel or touch or see it with what is known as sensors, but going beyond that, we still can say that:
- It is seen through a presentation layer
- It can be transformed into other states (different ways to store it, different ways to change it)
- It can be contained
- It can be quantified
Yet one can loose information – thus it can not be said that it conserves itself – but thinking at a larger scale I tend to say that the total information that exists is the same as its source is from the things around us. (Anyway I agree with the motto: “The information on this planet is constant in time among the population, but the population keeps increasing.”)
I’m still debating with myself it we can call information an actual state of matter, definitely not in the normal terms, but I think that in larger terms it’s true. Any good pro/con arguments are welcome.
Until then the classic view of matter:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_matter
Nov 4, 20062:46 am
Citam pe un om de stiinta german. Ca sa fiu cat mai transparent, el se numeste Dr. Werner Gitt (http://www.answersingenesis.org/Home/Area/bios/w_gitt.asp), si in cuvintele lui:
“A code system is always the result of a mental process (it requires an intelligent origin or inventor) … It should be emphasized that matter as such is unable to generate any code. All experiences indicate that a thinking being voluntarily exercising his own free will, cognition, and creativity, is required.
There is no known natural law through which matter can give rise to information, neither is any physical process or material phenomenon known that can do this”
Citatele sunt luate de pe pagina asta:http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v20/i3/answer.asp
(am revenit cu clarificari deoarece crede ca intrebarea are o greutate foarte mare, si de raspunsul care se da acestei intrebari depinde felul in care privim si intelegem intreaga lume)
Apr 21, 200711:27 am
Pwhahaha @ Answers in Genesis. Ignorance en masse. Those people believe dinosaurs and people lived alongside eachother.. shit, I think they watch the Flintstones as if it were a documentary :)
If you want to learn something about information, physics is the way to go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_entropy
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8:19 am
Cum inteleg eu:
In descrierea deloc mitologica pe care o face Biblia cu privire la originea omului, se spune ca Dumnezeu l-a facut pe om din tarana, dupa care i-a suflat in nari suflare de viata, dupa care omul s-a facut un suflet viu. Deci sufletul viu din om e urmare a suflarii de viata primita de la Dumnezeu.
Astfel, omul fiind creat in asemanarea lui Dumnezeu e capabil sa proceseze, sa inteleaga, sa discearna, si sa produca informatie.
La fel, informatia prezenta in univers e amprenta de netagaduit a Creatorului.
Un om de stiinta german spune ca nu se cunoaste in univers nici un proces natural care sa genereze informatie din neinformatie. Adica informatia vine doar din informatie, din tot ce am observat noi pana acum.
Parerea mea personala e ca informatia pe care sunt capabili oamenii sa o inteleaga, si sa o transforme, si sa produca mai departe, face parte din ceea ce Biblia numeste “omul facut dupa chipul si asemanarea lui Dumnezeu”.
Daca doresti sa citesti mai multe aceasta perspectiva asupra teoriei informatiei, iti recomand pagina asta:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/infotheory.asp